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Oktawia
02-22-2008, 10:36 PM
Welcome.

Please tell me how is possible: I wan't save save few small dogs from China to Poland.

Someone have to go with them or them can go alone with cage: tell me please:(

Karen
02-22-2008, 11:36 PM
Everything is possible,you can read about traveling to Europe with your pets on the ''pet travel'' section of this forum. A pekingnese is about 5 to 7KG so you will pay about 100euro per kilogram and about 500 to 700euro for 1 dog. Again, check the pet travel section.

As pukka mentioned, there are other threads in this section about traveling to Europe with pets. However, we have no connection with China or Chinese rescue organizations, so you will have to do more research about that.

Oktawia
02-23-2008, 12:27 AM
As pukka mentioned, there are other threads in this section about traveling to Europe with pets.
However, we have no connection with China or Chinese rescue organizations, so you will have to do more research about that.

I see:(but meaby it possibly? I still believe and will be asking-meaby somebody help.
Thanks Karen for answer.
P.S. for one dog-for exsample so small like Pek or Shih travel cost about 500 Euro?

Piotr
02-23-2008, 03:14 AM
I see:(but meaby it possibly? I still believe and will be asking-meaby somebody help.
Thanks Karen for answer.
P.S. for one dog-for exsample so small like Pek or Shih travel cost about 500 Euro?

Pani Oktawio, ta organizacja tylko sie opiekuje psami z Korei, nie w Chinach. Najlepiej by bylo, jak by pani mogla, wyslac donacje i te pieniadze bede lepiej wydane, niz zmarnione na lot.

Przepraszam za muj polski, za malo pisze! Ja pomagalem z ta organizacja i wracam do Korei za kilka dni. Jak pani ma wiecej pytan to niech pani spyta sie tutaj po angielsku albo po polsku. Ja jestem jedyny tutaj ktury sie urodzil w Polsce.

Jak pani o tej organizacje uslyszala?

Oktawia
02-23-2008, 07:15 AM
Witaj Malnikow!:o
mówmy sobie na "ty"-czytałam, że jesteś Polakiem-nie przepraszaj za polski bo ja przepraszam tutaj non stop za angielski:p

Korea/Chiny - róźnica tylko w nazwie-reszta to samo

usłyszałam-ja nie usłyszałam-jestem prawie codziennie na stronach targów, gdzie sprzedaje się psy na kilogramy: Moran Market, wrzucanie psów do wrzątku-stale zastanawiam się co można zrobic-prześladuje mnie ten widok i wczoraj dokładnie weszłam w google wpisując "Pekińczyki w potrzebie" szukałam patrzyłam-weszłam na te forum-tak to się stało.

chciałam się też dowiedziec jak można ściągnąc psy stamtąd:confused:? można zarezerwowac je jakoś i przesłac pieniązki na wybrane by je wysłali samolotem? jak to wygląda...

wejdź w mój podpis-zobaczysz pokaz slajdów-większośc to psy które osobiście ratowałam z najgorszego schroniska-umieralni w Polsce-jest tam też Pekińczyk, którego brałam ledwo żywego-szkieleta-jest ślepy, druga sunia również ze scroniska-ślepa, staruszka, z rakiem, trzymana w piwnicy-bita, następna sunia to Pekinka-również ze schroniska, potem 2 psy od hodowcy.
Widziałam naprawdę dużo-ale to co się dzieje w Korei przerasta granice ludzkiej wytrzymałości na cierpienie zwierząt....to jest piekło dla psów na ziemi.

Przepraszam, że się rozpisałam i dziękuję Ci za reakcję-liczę na następną odpowiedź:)

pukka
02-23-2008, 09:41 AM
I understand that Oktawia is having problems with english though do
you speak German? You can email me in german about any question
at louka1 at gmail dot com and I can translate you the adoption application
form as well and the procedure about dogs traveling to a EU country.
Let me know.

Oktawia
02-24-2008, 07:39 AM
Pukka-thank you so much! You right-my english is horrible, I understand a lot-but I offen make mistake:(
I don't now german unfortunately. Not at all.

Could you send me on my e-mail adoption apliccation in english?
Write me how much have to pay for adopt.
Write how much will cost travel.
If you can do ths send me this information on my e-mail adress:
oktawiamroczek@vp.pl

Thank you for help!

pukka
02-24-2008, 09:54 AM
Hi Octawia,

Please!!!! can you check the traveling section? I wrote about prices there ;) :D

And about the adoption application form, we only send one if you choose
1 dog first that you like.

Before you do that PLEASE read the traveling information first because it is
very expensive to send a dog to a EU country.

Oktawia
02-24-2008, 10:54 AM
Hi Octawia,

Please!!!! can you check the traveling section? I wrote about prices there ;) :D

And about the adoption application form, we only send one if you choose
1 dog first that you like.

Before you do that PLEASE read the traveling information first because it is
very expensive to send a dog to a EU country.


thank you Pukka!:)
a just was here:
http://www.animalrescuekorea.org/forums/showthread.php?t=200

the price (for adopt I now 45 USD) but price for travel in air? there was price korean-I don't uderstand and price on USD don't see.

and quarantann: Pukka you can thing about me: what a narrow minded! but I very care:(and I asking all the time and asking what don't understand also.
forgive me:(

pukka
02-24-2008, 11:05 AM
The adoption fee is not the problem when you adopt a dog.
$54 is very cheap.

Traveling on Cargo if you cannot pick up the dog:
Adoption fee $54/ 50.000won = 50euro
Complete shots 90.000won=90euro (but if the dog has vaccinations then
you can save this part)
Rabies serum test cost 100euro
travel cage 75euro
For example a small dog 4/5KG is 500 euro

All prices can be more or less depends on which dog you choose.

Oktawia
02-24-2008, 11:34 AM
The adoption fee is not the problem when you adopt a dog.
$54 is very cheap.

Traveling on Cargo if you cannot pick up the dog:
Adoption fee $54/ 50.000won = 50euro
Complete shots 90.000won=90euro (but if the dog has vaccinations then
you can save this part)
Rabies serum test cost 100euro
travel cage 75euro
For example a small dog 4/5KG is 500 euro

All prices can be more or less depends on which dog you choose.

thank for answer Pukka:)
500 EURO-o.k. that price I sawe somewhere on this forum-

and kwarantanna/quarantann? how long: 3 months or longer and where have to be this quarantann?

pukka
02-24-2008, 11:42 AM
After the bloodserum is positive(this cost 100euro) then the dog
can stay for quarantine time here in Korea for the 3months but
the serum test has to be positve (rabies serum)

The best would be if you choose a dog who is in a fosterhome right
now.That way the dog can wait 3months before traveling.

Oktawia
02-24-2008, 11:49 AM
After the bloodserum is positive(this cost 100euro) then the dog
can stay for quarantine time here in Korea for the 3months but
the serum test has to be positve (rabies serum)

The best would be if you choose a dog who is in a fosterhome right
now.That way the dog can wait 3months before traveling.

thank you!
o.k. tomorrow I will talk with my friend about money:
exactly 500 EURO now? or only test now: 100 EURO?

and Pukka swift no and count number I have to know.

pukka
02-24-2008, 11:57 AM
This is all together and depends if the fosterhome ask for
adoption fee or vaccinations money.

The adoption fee is not the problem when you adopt a dog.
$54 is very cheap.

Traveling on Cargo if you cannot pick up the dog:
Adoption fee $54/ 50.000won = 50euro
Complete shots 90.000won=90euro (but if the dog has vaccinations then
you can save this part)
Rabies serum test cost 100euro
travel cage 75euro
For example a small dog 4/5KG is 500 euro

If somebody in Poland wants a dog I am sure we can work on
helping out with the vaccinations and adoption fee (depends on the fosterhome really)
upfront.
But you have to pay for the travel crate, the transportation and the rabies test
Total almost 700euro IF the dog is about 4/5KG
But that is for a healthy dog!

Most rescue dogs need medical care and they have to be spayed/neutered first!
Spaying cost about 140 euro (female dog)
Neutering about 70euro (male dog)
Teeth cleaning between 40 and 70euro
Sometimes they need skin treatments.
Sometimes heartworm treatments (between 150 and 300euro)
Distemper 30euro a day and treatmenst are mostly for 8days

And I have to remind you that the EU countries only accept HEALTHY dogs!
I do have to give you all these information because you have to know
that adopting a rescue dogs is really expensive.

Most foreigners who live here in Korea are spending a lot of money for these dogs.
Most people have one dog only because one day they will go back to their country
and also the medical care for animals are very important and expensive!

Then again, if somebody wants to spend so much money and what if the
person (your friends) will not like the dog?

To be honest I would never adopt a dog that I never met before. When I met my dog
in the street I loved her right away :D

alibuch
02-24-2008, 11:02 PM
oktawia:

It's great that you want to help.... but you could help more dogs at shelters in Poland. If you want to spend so much money bringing a dog from Korea to Poland, why not get a rescue dog in Poland and donate that money so that the other dogs can get proper care?

Just an idea...

alibuch
02-24-2008, 11:04 PM
And I definitely agree with Pukka. When I got Louise, she was healthier than some of the dogs at the shelter but I ended up spending 400,000w just on treatments for her ear infections... you need to keep these things in mind...

Oktawia
02-25-2008, 02:10 AM
oktawia:

It's great that you want to help.... but you could help more dogs at shelters in Poland. If you want to spend so much money bringing a dog from Korea to Poland, why not get a rescue dog in Poland and donate that money so that the other dogs can get proper care?

Just an idea...

I know-you think that is crazy meaby if I was you I also think the same and ask the same like you....
exactly-this signature for example what you see: I save a lot of dogs from this shelter, this photo and this short film I made it.
but believe me: Korea isnt' Poland
people who love dogs is small group-you know abot it.

another example:
I adopted my secont Pekignesse: old and almost blind, he's care is very very expensive, medicine include steryd and food: one of sponsor my old lovely Pek said: "Oktawia you should eutanasia them"-this money what spend for him I tell you: I could save one small dog from Korea-but I don't give up, he is curing, feel good, have good apetitte, because he have medicine care and a lot of love

Do you understand what I wan't to say-my example also?:(this is not easy to axplaine meaby-I explain how I culd....

alibuch
02-25-2008, 11:17 AM
I understand what you're saying. But you could adopt a dog from here and then what happens if it doesn't get along with your other pets?

Oktawia
03-01-2008, 11:37 AM
I understand what you're saying. But you could adopt a dog from here and then what happens if it doesn't get along with your other pets?

please forgive me for my absent:(
good question Alibuch-when I adopt my first dog-black, old Schnauzer mix from shelter in Łódź-Poland on of my friend give me red signal: "what are you doing Oktawia! She is agressive!" but I work with her-It was'nt easy believe me, she is much bigger than my other dogs, she is completly blind, she spend all live underground-what in english is part in house under-help...., she was abused. Now she is with me almost 2 years and effects are georgeus!
She is not wild like she was.
Rest my dog-small dogs-picture is in happy tales-afraid only big dogs! Big dogs abolutlely are not for me.

Oktawia
03-04-2008, 09:50 AM
forgive korean dogs-please-for my help wait small dog from dirty shelter-dog without eyes-picture of them is in "happy tales"-I'll take him to my home:

http://www.animalrescuekorea.org/forums/showthread.php?t=384

so now I can not take dog from Daejon-forgive me:(