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Karen
11-29-2007, 09:25 PM
Some conversation from the Adoptable Animals forum has moved off topic, so I'm relocating it here.

In an adoption ad, the poster commented:

... There is no charge for the pups, all we care about is placing them with a good owner.
Then I replied:

... PS. I've also heard that some people answer "free pet" ads only to resell the animals either to labs (that's a US thing), or to restaurants (in Korea), or to other unscreened people in order to make money. I hate to be a fear-mongerer, but it is something to consider:

http://www.lonelylifetime.com/news/kore … -lost-pet/
Which elicited this response:

Don't you think that is a horrible thing to say? I am from the US and no we don't go getting free animals to sell to labs. I am currently in KOREA that is how I found this site hoping to find a place that will allow me to adopt a dog or puppy...and the whole koreans eat dog...********! Yes, dogs are a food here but [COMMENT REMOVED]. It is a specific breed of dog that is raised for the specific purpose to eat not some random free dog that someone intends on selling to some market. The dogs that are ate here are only sold in rich neighborhoods...I have a dog already over here living with us and trust me it was the first thing I wanted to know. Nothing is more irritating than people who insist on fgiving the wron information..
To which Wibidad responded:

As a matter of fact, there is no specific breed that is raised for food, and dogmeat is not just "ate" in rich neighborhoods either. I live in a less-than-opulent district in Daejeon and there are several dogmeat restaurants to be found in a very small area. I also see the dogs that go to the restaurants, and they are all kinds of dogs. The only thing they have in common is their miserable suffering.

Aside from the dogs that are kept in small, cramped wooden pens waiting to be slaughtered by the restaurants, local dogs are indeed picked up off the street or taken from dog shelters and served in restaurants or cooked at home. Smaller breeds are more likely to be eaten in homes. A neighbor here sold his dog to a restaurant, after my wife had been feeding her and trying to help her stay healthy through the cold winter and hot summer. It was heartbreaking.

In summer, no dogs are off-limits, and we met many sad Korean people whose dogs were snatched by dogmeat traders or consumers- the lesson is to keep your dogs on a leash and never leave them unattended.

But this is all way off topic. Karen's point, which was clear enough, was that without adequate screening and requesting an adoption fee, there is no way to be sure the person adopting the dog has good intentions. Of course, there is always a risk, but this is just a bit of insurance.

Believe me, Karen is quite well educated in this and other matters. But I agree with you that people who insist on giving the wrong information are quite irritating, so please refrain from doing so. There are many links on this site alone that can shed light on the topic, should you be interested.
Discussion is still open and comments welcome.

alibuch
11-29-2007, 10:10 PM
I think fromtheus is being extremely rude... and ignorant. It's not just rich neighborhoods that eat dogs.... not sure where you got that information from. Also, it isn't just the Jindo breed that is eaten.

kah07
11-30-2007, 02:58 AM
I agree......[comment removed].....Maybe before you go making statements about what happens in Korea and other parts of Asia regarding dog meat, you should do a little research......YOU ARE WRONG!!..........[comment removed] I am especially upset at the fact that you are from the US and are defending the discusting and shameful Korean dog meat industry.......[comment removed] ......it's a complete injustice to all the poor innocent dogs out there.

Karen
11-30-2007, 04:15 AM
Hi all,

I do believe we've hit on an emotional topic and so I've had to do some editing above. I do want to encourage people to give their opinions, but without attacking each other on a personal level. Let's use these forums to discuss the issues calmly. Don't get me wrong, I do understand where the emotions are coming from.

For my part, I brought up the topic of "free pets", or given-away animals being sold for other purposes. I did not mean to suggest that Americans in general sell their pets to labs, but that it does sometimes happen through "Class B dealers" or "bunchers".

Here is where I got that info:

Humane Society of the US
Class B Dealers (http://www.hsus.org/animals_in_research/class_b_dealers/)

The Fate of Many Lost Pets Revealed (http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affecting_our_pets/pet_overpopulation_and_ownership_statistics/fate_of_many_lost_pets.html)

Re: HBO documentary "Dealing Dogs" (http://www.hsus.org/press_and_publications/press_releases/the_hsus_praises_hbo_for.html)

11 more HSUS articles on the topic, here (http://www.hsus.org/search.jsp?query=bunchers&x=0&y=0).

HelpingAnimals.org
Animal Dealers: Licensed to Kill (http://www.helpinganimals.com/Factsheet/files/FactsheetDisplay.asp?ID=41)

Michelle Crean, Animal Aid of SW MI
Hundreds of dogs seized from Arkansas Class-B dealer (http://www.dogsonly.org/bunchers.html)

KARA
In Korea, where the problem of abandoned animals is also rather huge, Korea Animal Rights Advocates (KARA) has one translated article in the "Dog Meat Issue" section of their English website:
http://animalrightskorea.org/dog-related-news/rejected-pet-scam.html (http://www.withanimal.net/tt-cgi/tt/site/ttboard.cgi?act=read&db=e_kara02&page=1&idx=5)